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We can hear children playing.

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There's no children here in the building.

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Oh, you hear that?

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I'm definitely hearing a voice.

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My name is Ryan and I'm a paranormal investigator.

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When I was a kid, my experiences with the supernatural terrified me,

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and I've been searching for answers ever since.

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When I got to Penn State, I realized I wasn't alone in my quest.

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So I founded the Paranormal Research Society,

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dedicated to helping those who were haunted like I was.

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We are students.

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We are seekers.

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And sometimes we're warriors.

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And each time we help someone,

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I feel like I'm one step closer to finding the truth.

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This is Paranormal State.

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How many of you today?

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Five.

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This is case file 2007 to 01.32f.

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We have a client named Shannon Sylvia.

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It feels like she's being plagued by some unseen supernatural force

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that's affecting her entire life.

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They live in a condo that was converted from an old schoolhouse.

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There have been knocking sounds, banging sounds, apparitions, voices.

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So we have specific tasks.

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How are we going to be doing interviews?

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Katrina and Elfie, you two will be doing the secondary interviews.

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Heather and Sergey will be working tech,

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but there's a couple of things that we need to focus on with this case.

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One, this is paranormal.

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Is this associated with the house or is this associated with Shannon?

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And then two, this is just a regular haunting.

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Any questions, comments, concerns?

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Anyone want my bacon?

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Yes.

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I've been waiting for you to ask.

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Gosh.

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Whoa.

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Whoa.

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Oh, no, no, no.

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Hi.

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Hi.

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Shannon.

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Hi.

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Nice to meet you.

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I'm Ryan.

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We spoke on the phone.

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Hi, Ryan.

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Come on in.

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When I moved here, it was a breath of fresh air.

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And when it started happening here, it was very disappointing.

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It was devastating.

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When did you start experiencing things here?

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Immediately.

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There was an evening where I was talking on the phone at 11.30 at night.

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I could hear the wall creaking next to me as if somebody was in the bathroom.

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Out of nowhere, my bedroom door just hammered wide open.

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And it hit the wall behind the door so hard it put a hole in it.

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And there was nothing there.

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I screamed.

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It just startled me really bad.

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I thought somebody was barging into the condo here.

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And I just looked up and there was nothing there.

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Nothing.

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I have no explanation for that.

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Tell me about the dreams.

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I've had this dream a thousand times.

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My body starts to turn numb.

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And it throws me up on the walls.

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And it throws me up on the ceiling.

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And this thing holds me there.

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It's not normal to dream these things.

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Half of me wants to believe that I'm being haunted by something.

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The other half just makes you wonder if it's just stress or everyday life.

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What would you like to see us do?

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I would like some answers hoping for some solution.

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I would say what I've had here have been interesting experiences.

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We did have a psychic come here.

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And that was one of the real interesting things.

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Yeah.

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I was always extremely skeptical about that.

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I'm like, you know, here comes a psychic into our house.

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You know, how much is this going to cost?

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And what is she really after?

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Because I really don't really believe in that kind of stuff.

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She identified four spirits in the house by name.

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Never charged us a dime.

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So are you saying now that you believe that there's something here?

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As skeptical as I am.

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You know, I don't discount for a minute that there, you know,

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could be something going on here.

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This spot right here that we're coming up on is actually a hot spot for us.

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I was standing talking to two friends and something flicked my ear.

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On a few occasions, our light bulbs have been completely unscrewed.

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We can hear voices outside the door.

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And ironically, the voices seemed to mimic my husband and I.

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Anything happen upstairs?

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Yeah. Some professionals come here.

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A psychic woman that told us that she could actually see an apparition of ghosts up here.

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Two children, a little girl and a little boy.

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This used to be a school, right?

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This used to be a school back in the 1800s up until about 1984.

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And we can hear children playing.

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There's no children here in the building.

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You just don't know. We don't know who they are.

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We have a lot of questions.

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Directors log.

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I finished my preliminary interviews with the clients.

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They reported hearing voices of children in their home.

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And since this place used to be an old school house,

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I think we need to look into the building itself.

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School closed in 1981.

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This is the school.

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You see the four rooms are actually the four rooms like that.

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Now in 1919, 1920, they built an addition in the front

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because this was very set back in the street.

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The front part was added later.

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So we're just trying to get the history of the building

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to see if there's any strange occurrences of what used to be the pierce school.

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There's certainly been a lot of horrific deaths and accidents in town

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but I've not seen anything at least to date about any bad accidents

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or scares or anything at the school.

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So far we haven't found anything that sticks out.

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Nothing traumatic.

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With our research, we've confirmed that Cheyenne's building

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was converted from an old school house.

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Paranormally speaking, it makes sense that she would hear children's voices.

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The next step is to conduct an EVP session with our equipment

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to try and experience these unexplained voices firsthand.

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We'll use that 360 mic, that one, and we'll use the one without the 360 mic.

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So we use two audio recorders.

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Scare everything ready.

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Surgery please!

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Nothing, nothing.

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Are you flying with the drone again?

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No, I was looking at, what's that, Ryan?

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You're about playing with the drone.

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What's that, Ryan? Ryan, you need me?

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I knew it, Surgery.

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I don't know, those aren't mine. I don't know how they got in there.

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Those are, I don't know, whose those are.

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What are you all doing?

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This is EVP session number one.

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We ask for 15 second intervals between questions.

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So we'll begin them now.

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Can you give us a sign to let us know that you're here?

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Can you give us a sign to let us know that you are listening?

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Do you like being here with Shannon and Jeff?

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Does anybody here have any breathing?

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Is anybody breathing heavy?

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No, it's just one again.

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I don't know if it's like something outside, but I keep hearing it like from this ear.

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Like that.

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Do you guys not hear that?

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No?

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You hear it right now?

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Yeah, I just want it.

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I just want it again.

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It's like right in my ear.

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I heard that. I'm definitely hearing a voice.

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Whoa.

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I heard something say Katie.

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It's probably speakers.

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Right in when you hear something whispering,

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and then right afterwards you hear me say, it's like Katie.

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It's something, but it's not audible now.

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Just figure it out. Just clean it up.

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The psychic who originally advised Shannon and Jeff reported sensing the spirits of children in the house.

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Could Katie be one of these children?

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We've asked to interview the psychic to see if her readings are in sync with her own evidence.

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Are you feeling anything right now in this place?

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This place is definitely haunted.

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Can you explain?

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There's a little boy, his name is Billy, and all of a sudden this little kid comes up to me, you know, he wants to play.

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Get out of here.

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So this little boy was out there running up and down and playing games.

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What else do you feel?

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I feel the presence of a woman named, one is Elizabeth.

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There's another one named Emily.

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When you were here for four or five hours, you said you felt the spirit of two children?

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Two children.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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And what were their names?

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One is Billy.

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One was Billy.

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And the other one I believe is Jenny.

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Do you know if they're here right now?

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Yes.

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A male hung himself here before it was a school.

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Are you picking up on a year?

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1856.

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I think she was really, really nice.

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You know, she was a sweet lady, but from what she had told Shannon a couple years to what she told us today has completely changed.

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She told Shannon that there were two little children here named Jacob and Elizabeth.

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They're now named Billy and Jenny.

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She said that there was a male who hung himself here in 1856 in this very apartment unit, which we know from today's research, it wasn't built until 1920.

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The clients are living in fear in their own home and much of the activity they've been experiencing, they've based on what the psychic has told them.

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But I'm not sold on Tricia's reading.

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The details don't add up.

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I've arranged for her to perform a test reading on surgery to further assess what she senses.

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Has there been a girl that recently walked away?

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No, not that I can watch for.

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Okay.

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Should you be wearing glasses?

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No.

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Who around you needs glasses?

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Who around me needs glasses?

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Yeah, somebody who's around you needs glasses.

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Should they be wearing them?

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They should be wearing them.

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Okay.

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Yeah, okay, either that or contacts or whatever.

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Right.

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And have you just recently lost a pet?

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No.

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Who's lost a pet around you?

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It'll come to you, don't worry about it.

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Who's Martha? The name Martha?

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Martha?

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Mm-hmm.

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Can't even think of anyone.

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Oh yeah, you were when I leave.

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Okay, alright.

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It was fun, ladies and gentlemen.

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We talked to the psychic, Tricia.

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When it came to the actual stuff here,

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she bounced around a lot.

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She said there's a spirit here named Jenny.

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A spirit here named Billy.

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Jenny had a boyfriend and it was a murder suicide in here.

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Yeah, now here Jenny is a child who's six to eight years old.

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Yeah, before it was Elizabeth who was the child who was six to eight years old.

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Oh, okay.

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And Jacob was her little brother.

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Elizabeth is in her thirties.

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A little disappointing because the stories are completely messed up.

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You know, I've known this story for three years.

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I've always just repeated those facts in my mind over and over again.

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Yeah.

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You start to believe it after a while because somebody told you.

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Oh, sure.

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When the story gets reversed and twisted, it's a little disappointing.

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Yeah.

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We are now preparing for dead time.

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We're turning off all unnecessary electronics and setting up our equipment

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in an effort to make clear contact with any possible entities in the home.

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In this case, the source of the voice calling out for Katie.

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Are there any children here that want to speak?

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We are not here to harm you.

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Is there anyone here from last night?

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We have questions for you.

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We hope that you will answer them.

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The motion detector just went off.

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You hear that?

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There's a weird sound.

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That's what I'm known as.

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Knocking sounds?

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I don't know.

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Is there someone named Katie here with us tonight?

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I'm not getting anything.

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All right, Serge, we're going to end this dead time.

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We're still not sure what set off the motion detectors.

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Nothing showed up on our monitors and our equipment appears to be in working condition.

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So we are ultimately reporting no evidence from dead time.

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Most importantly, no EVPs calling out the name Katie from the spirit world.

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So we're calling in at night.

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Your Evee.

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The damage area has been overcome nearby.

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What happened to Katie?

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Uncleеч yes?

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Director's note, after a restless night in the client's home,

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we're just learning now about an incredible coincidence.

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Now, which apartment did you live in?

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Which unit did you live in?

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Jeff has received a call that may add a critical new element

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to our case.

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That would be wonderful.

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And thank you for taking the time.

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OK, we'll do.

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Thanks.

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Bye-bye.

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You guys will love it.

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What's the man you'll hear last night?

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I was talking to someone today who used to live here.

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OK, she actually lived in this building

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and had identical experiences to what we're having.

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So that's the girl's name.

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Her name is Cutie Goff.

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So Katie is a real person.

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Oh, yeah.

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Oregonnormalstate.com for more about the team, the cases,

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and to share your paranormal experience.

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Director's log, day three.

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The voice we heard during our earlier EVP session

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seemed to be saying the name Katie.

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We just learned that there is, in fact, a former tenant named

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Katie who had similar experiences.

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Hello?

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Hi, Katie.

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Yeah.

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Hey, Katie, this is Ryan Buell with the Penn State

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Paranormal Research Society.

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Hi.

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Hi, do you have a few minutes?

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Yeah.

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When did you move into this building?

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Probably August of 1986.

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I was hearing children.

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I was wake up in the morning and everything was yellow

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with a place like 20 children and just walked into the room.

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Now, have you experienced any hauntings

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before you moved into this condo for a few weeks?

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Never have.

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Half before, never have since.

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OK.

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I've asked her to visit the clients in person

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so that they could share their stories.

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I'm hoping this might give them each a sense of validation.

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Hi.

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How you doing?

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Nice to meet you.

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How you doing?

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Very good.

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How are you?

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Good.

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You must be Katie.

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Yes.

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Hi, I'm Ryan.

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The hearing you were coming over was just wonderful for us.

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Now, did anyone tell you that they picked up voices saying

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Katie?

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No.

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Just the other night when we were doing EVPs here.

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They heard Katie.

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This was the day before Barry, who knows me very well,

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talked to me at work and said, my wife knows somebody

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that had some experiences here.

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He didn't even tell me her name that day

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until the next morning when I talked him on the phone.

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I said, what's her name by the way?

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And he goes, Katie.

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I just think it's really weird that I heard my name

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and then the next day it was like, we can hear children playing.

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And we looked out the windows to see

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that there were no children around.

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There were no children in the building at all.

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That's what I remember.

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I remember the children.

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And I remember conversations being very clear.

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Not like, well, just muffled, not just noise, clear.

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And I couldn't remember what people said or anything

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like that.

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But I remember being very clear conversations.

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And I remember children.

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I remember it always seemed like now I say it

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because I have six kids.

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It seems like I had a bunch of kids just running through.

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I remember, I think I said before, the toilet seat being up,

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the refrigerator being left open.

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I knew nobody else could come in because the doors were locked,

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come home from work, and everything would be changed.

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And my mother was bedridden.

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And it's just, it's a lot of stuff.

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I remember my friends just laugh at me telling me I'm crazy.

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Oh, my neighbors thought I was nuts too.

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After meeting the real Katie, it's

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my feeling that the voice we heard

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may have been calling out for her.

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There have been cases where a spirit retains a trace memory

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of a particular person.

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This spirit may have felt familiar or comfortable

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with the former tenant.

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But Katie has moved on.

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And so it's time for any residual spirits to do the same.

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I guess it's safe to officially discard the psychic information.

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That just leaves us with Shannon's haunting,

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which is being validated by Katie, who didn't know anything

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about Shannon or her experiences.

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It was all just random chance that we found out.

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So we'll just focus this as a schoolhouse haunting.

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We've invited paranormal consultants Keith and Sandra

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Johnson to perform a blessing ritual on the client's home.

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Not only will the blessing help Shannon and Jeff

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by calming future activity, but it can also

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help any lingering spirits by letting them know

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it's time to move on.

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Touch not my promise.

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No ado, my anointed ones harm.

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I will be done on earth as it is in heaven.

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This room be sealed and protected.

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Our daily bread.

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We ask that Shannon and Jeff be protected both day and night.

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May they be kept from harm.

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May they not be bothered anymore from any spiritual presence.

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And lead us not into the place in the name of the Father,

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but deliver us from evil.

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And of the Son, and of the kingdom,

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and of the Holy Spirit, amen.

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God bless you.

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God bless you both.

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When we had Keith and Sandra come in here and bless the place,

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and how do you feel after they did that?

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Does the place feel better?

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It feels good.

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Comfortable.

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Comfortable?

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This is a great experience.

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Yeah.

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Surprisingly, we had another person come in and say

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they had the similar experiences as you.

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If you ever feel like you're being attacked or anything

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negative comes, let us know.

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Of course.

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If you have any questions, always give us a ring.

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My final assessment is that the voice we heard calling out

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for Katie could very well be connected to the former tenant

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we met.

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But there's really no way to know for sure.

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What's most important for us are Shannon and Jeff.

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When the clients feel safe again in their own home,

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that's when I feel like we've done our job.